Libra Stuck on Saturn /IC Line
Up to General Questions and Experiences am Libra stuck on a Saturn/IC line. There is no doubt in my mind of the validity of /AstroCartoGraphy, I have had several charts made in the last 10 years, all came to pass. Moved to Saturn/IC 1996 resulted in collapse of marriage, loss of jobs, lawsuits, foreclosure of new home and loss of other assets, and a consequent debt load that has left is in ruin. After 10 years here it has been nearly impossible to recover or to escape this Saturn IC zone. I am now 62 yrs. old, and this is a disaster at this time
in life. Don't anybody ever move to a Saturn/IC line - no matter what or why.
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IF I HAVE ONE SIMPLE QUESTION, IT WOULD BE REGARDING THE POTENTIAL MOVE TO THE OUTER RIM OF THE SATURN LINE. MIGHT IT BE ANY BETTER THAN BEING DEAD CENTER ON IT? I know what the ACG books says, but there seems to be some discrepancy on that matter. I'm hoping others may have felt some relief. The depression that comes with living on a Saturn line weighs heavily on me, and my physical health is very fragile<div>
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Hi Ann,
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I can understand how life has been difficult for you living near to a SA IC line, especiallly when it is only one degree from where you live. The closer to the SA IC line you live, the more powerful the influence will be. Moving to a location that is about seven or eight degrees from your SA IC line will have a less powerful influence, but you will still notice that it has an effect in your life. I doubt that you would be happy in life when the SA IC line is still having an influence.
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I have many clients who live under a Saturn line, explain how difficult life is and want to move to another location. However, for one reason or the other, they find it extremely difficult to move away from the Saturn line, and hope that one day life will improve for them.
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After I got married in 1989 my wife moved to England where she has a SA IC line. Before she moved I told her she wouldn't find it easy in England, but she didn't believe me and said this would be much better than living in a Communist country. After only one week in England she was very depressed and unhappy in life, but thought she needed time to settle down in England. After two years life became unbearable for her in England, so we made a decision to relocate to Munich in Germany. I have MA IC and SA MH in England, so it wasn't easy for me as well to live there. It's bad enough when one person has a Saturn life, but when the partner has one as well you can imagine how difficult things were.
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A location, on or near to your VE DSC line, seems to be the best possibility for you. In your natal chart Venus is sextile Mars, otherwise, it makes no other aspects. C*C*G SA DSC and C*C*G UR ASC are passing through California at the moment, so it wouldn't be a good time to move there if you were thinking of doing so.
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I always recommend that you examine the Cyclo*Carto*Graphy map before making any decisions to move. More information about Cyclo*Carto*Graphy can be read at the Astro Numeric Service website.
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Mars/Saturn - I can sympathize with you & your wife! Being on a Mars line was true hell - first husband (a Taurus!) was extremely violent on that Mars line. Mississippi.
As I stated in my report, it is financially impossible for me to move back to California, unless I win the lottery, which is unlikely here on SA/IC. The financial losses have been so severe here, and the debts so heavy that it is impossible to recover financially. I do not have any family either, to whom I could move. Every year I/we are here the situation seems more hopeless. I only have an Aunt & Cousins in Spencerport, N.Y. Aunt also has a condo in Ft.Myers, Florida. She is not open to take in borders, and Ft. Meyers does not get me off the SA/IC anyhow. This was the worst mistake of my life.
Ann - How are you getting on now? Any updates? I ask because I have clients and friends who have moved to Saturn lines and sometimes a little time is all it takes before the good sides of the Saturn lines start to show their reliable, wise faces. Saturn has a secret gift side - any reports? I wish you good transits. DK-S
Interesting. After reading Ann's post about living and being stuck under a Saturn IC line, I plotted and printed out the relocational chart for where I grew up and found out it was also directly under a Saturn IC line. I lived there between the ages of 1 and 18, and I pretty much had to raise myself, since I was emotionally abandoned by my parents, who were divorced. I had to deal with bullies, and all sorts of other abusers on my own. We lived on the outskirts of town, and my mother was an angry tyrant who didn't allow me to visit school friends, who lived long distances away from me. I got away from it only because my mother had decided I was going to University. At that time, I was otherwise too traumatized and cowed to be able to plot my own escape.
Out of curiosity, I also did a chart for the day I most likely arrived at my new place of residence (located some 400 miles away), based on where my planets were at the place I grew up. There are a lot of tight transits between that and my birth chart, based around the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 12th houses, involving the ruler of and the two planets in the 4th House. Because they involve a lot of outer planets and the 12th house, I interpret it to broadly mean that the forces that brought me to grow up in such a harsh environment, also threw me me out of it. It also appears as if I was destined to leave at the exact time that I did.
Neptune in Sag/2nd House semi-sextiles the Sun in the 3rd house right down to the minute.
Neptune also Sextiles Saturn(2 degrees) and Venus (4 degrees) in the 4th house
Uranus(4th house ruler) in Sag conjuncts 2nd House cusp with an orb of only 3 minutes
Uranus also exactly sextiles my Moon, which conjuncts Mars in the 3rd House
Saturn in the 12th trines Saturn in the 4th with a 2 degree orb
Pluto in the 12th squares my Sun in the 3rd (3 deg. orb), also trining Venus and Saturn almost exactly between the 2 of them in the 4th house. (3 deg either side)
Venus opposes Venus in the 4th (1/2 deg. orb)
Sun conjuncts Uranus/Pluto in the 10th house
I don't know if any of these observations will help you figure out your relocational problems, but hopefully the rest of us can learn from them.